Reccommend me a "Studio" guitar
Reccommend me a "Studio" guitar
An LP Studio is a solid guitar, but from one LP to the next they sound different. My Studio is pretty warm sounding, my friends is a tad more crisp sounding. my Classic sounds 100% different then mine or my friends studios. best bet is to go play a bunch of them find the one you like the best and buy it. although dont bother playing any that are out of your price range. if you wont spend 2000 on a PRS you wont spend 3000 on a LP Custom.
good luck.
if i were in the market for a studio axe i would look for anything that has either set neck or neck thru and string thru, natural wood finish (no gloss or anything of that sort), pickups of choice that are screwed into the wood (that is mahogany, and possible maple top)and a TOM bridge.
specs like that are way more pure tone than any LP, guitars like this though are slim to none, i know that ibanez makes some like this...the MM1 is a perfect example, which have specially designed pickups that are a tad bit hotter than a 59. Pups arent mounted to the body, but thats an easy fix
if you wanted to put in a little bit more money, you could go for a warmoth, however you wont have a set neck
Well, the LP studio is pretty close to the spec you just listed there, and the very subtle tonal differences aren't as important to me as the general overall sound. I just want something a little more organic sounding for recording so some nice passive pickups in a really resonant mahogany guitar is where i'm starting from.
Well, the LP studio is pretty close to the spec you just listed there, and the very subtle tonal differences aren't as important to me as the general overall sound. I just want something a little more organic sounding for recording so some nice passive pickups in a really resonant mahogany guitar is where i'm starting from.
i get your point, though im an anti LP player myself, they aren't defined enough, i like something that can be attack and can be warm without getting too loose, when i hear the EC vc LP clips i find the EC to be so much better, its a lot tighter and has more dynamic
so i was just giving an idea if you are swaying away from a LP
"Studio" guitar???? whats that mean???
based on what ur asking for (passives, not $2000, etc)
EC400VF with SDs
there are also two EC1000 with SDs. Im not a Gibson fan, esp. their cheaper models.
You could look at a Michael Kelly Patriot (Mahogany body), dont know how the pups are in them. Ive never played one but hear they're great for price.
Budget is a slight concern, but If I have to compromise I'd rather wait until my budget is expanded.
The SE's aren't what I'm after, this guitar needs to have a really great tonal quality about it. I'm thinking somthing very resonant, I'd probably string it up with slightly heavier strings just to get that nice volume out of it, just so more of the guitar's natural sound shines through rather than a set of EMG's sledgehammering the preamp.
So far the ones I've considered are:
PRS Custom 22 (Waaaay out of price range)
Gibson Les Paul Studio (heard a 50/50 mix of good and bad reviews)
LTD PB-500 (really hard to try one out, but looks like it would lly do the job, plus I already trust the brand)
LTD EC-400 VF (as above but slightly less hard to find)
Thing that's got me curious is the fabled "Les Paul tone" that everybody rants on about. I've never bothered in the past because comfort has always come first for me and LPs are the most uncomfortable things I've ever played. However I wouldn't be too bothered with this one as its merely a recording tool to add some different textural flavours rather than just having track after track of EMG-esque tone.
Don't get me wrong, the Eclipse has some sick tone. I'm just curious as to how far I can go in finding something close to this "Les Paul tone", which comes from a huge heavy block of Mahogany and a pair of PAFs.
On a side note, even though I hate fanboyism coming into it, I know that a lot of my favourite bands that don't necessarily endorse Gibson track with LP's in the studio, and get some fat sounds. Mr Wilson in particular. :p
Dammit I wish I had £2000 spare for that PRS...
Mmm...I've never liked SG's personally. Nothing about them really appeals to me - the look, the sound, the feel...nah, I'm after something more robust and powerful.
I'm not after "bang for the buck", I'm looking for a guitar that will be an investment, something I can still take into the studio 20 years down the line because its got "that tone" that I can rely on. I am pretty much after the huge LP tone you mentioned, but I thought I'd see if there's any real contenders out there first.
I do love the SE's, but again I only like them because of the "bang for the buck" factor, and right here I'm looking for a large proportion of the money I spend to go to the "tone" factor of the guitar (hence the Custom 22 being out of the window :()
I would buy used but I rarely if ever buy guitars without trying them out first. In fact I've only ever done it once, but it was an LTD so I knew exactly what I was getting. I've heard so many horror stories, and an equal amount of praise, about Gibson which makes me slightly hesitant, plus there is the obvious Brand Name price hiking involved.
I mean, an EC-400VF or a PB-500 would probably have most of what I'm looking for. But I've always wondered if a nice Les Paul, the real deal, the whole shebang, would be just that bit better, just the icing on the cake that I'd love to pieces every time I plugged it in and hit record.
I love my Eclipse, but a fatter, heavier body with more wood and PAF style pickups gets me wondering.
Randy Rhodes' were Alder last time I checked. But the fact that its a much smaller, thinner body and the bridge is a floating trem means that it would sound massively, massively different to a Les Paul.
Bah, that wood, construction, scale, bridge, pick-up, finish, thing is grossly over exaggerated. I am sure an LP and RR sound almost identical.
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For a studio guitar you're after the wrong things. You want something ULTRA-easy to play, and with a huge array of tones. A Les Paul is good for this, but you'll want to avoid the Studios (junk), and you'll need to do the Seymour Duncan 'spin-a-split' mod on at least one of the tone knobs. That'll give you the usual LP tone, along with the snarlier LP Jr P90 sound, and even tele tones with both pickups fully tapped.
Yeah man go for a LP, pure tone :hat