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Makoto99
Makoto99 wrote

Are all 3 of the Eclipse E-II models full-thickness (satin white and the blue burl as well as this black burst one)? Or is it just this one? Also do you have an average weight on these? I had a single-cut from a competing company that weighed more than my bass guitars... had to sell it :( I have an E-II Viper and love it, and an ESP Eclipse and would like to upgrade the Eclipse to an E-II but not sure if it'll be comparable?

Thanks in advance!

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    Makoto99
    Makoto99 wrote

    *I have an ESP LTD Eclipse, I meant to say...

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      Carl N.
      Carl N. wrote

      Hey Makoto, only the models which denote full thickness will be of that specification.  The others will be modeled after the thinner bodied Eclipse instruments.

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        nick l.
        nick l. wrote

        what are the specific design differences in the full-thickness models? Is the neck thicker as well as the body? Is the neck a different shape?

        Is this meant to have any impact on tonality, or is it more just a personal thing about choosing a heavier guitar?

        Thanks a lot

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          Carl N.
          Carl N. wrote

          Hey Nick, full thickness will refer to the body thickness.  This will be a thicker bodied instrument than that of our typical Eclipse models.  This will affect the tone of the instrument as well as the weight and feel.

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            Renato T.
            Renato T. wrote

            Can we get a lefty version of this full thickness one? I would buy one without a doubt! 

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              Carl N.
              Carl N. wrote

              Hey Renato, sorry we do not offer this at the moment, we'll keep your comment in mind when designing new models.

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                Paul J.
                Paul J. wrote

                Probably an impossible question to answer, but it seems all the retailers our out of these.  Any idea when more will be shipped?  Or how much of a back log you guys need to work through?

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                  Chase
                  Chase wrote

                  I have one in stock right now. www.reverb.com/shop/musicloft 

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                    Todd B. ESP
                    Todd B. ESP wrote

                    Thanks Chase!

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                      Todd B. ESP
                      Todd B. ESP wrote

                      Hey Paul, I see that you got a reply from one dealer, hope you can work out something with them. It's hard to say who has them in stock but you can always contact our sales department directly by calling during business hours and they can help you. Often times we are between shipments and sometimes backordered for certain models so we will fill our oldest dealer orders when we get our next shipment.

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                        Nick K.
                        Nick K. wrote

                        FYI that music loft reverb link doesn't work

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                          Renato T.
                          Renato T. wrote

                          how is the forearm edge of this model? Is it sharp like the regular E-II Eclipse? I've owned a Japanese Eclipse, but had to sell because the edge was hurting my forearm.

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                            Todd B. ESP
                            Todd B. ESP wrote

                            Hi Renato, Thanks for your question. The corner round on this and other E-II Eclipse models is a little tighter than our LTD's. It does make it slightly "sharper" feeling, but I would not say it's excessive as you mentioned. I do know what you are talking about. Some years ago our Eclipse did have a rather sharp edge which could be uncomfortable for some players. Hope this helps.

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                              Renato T.
                              Renato T. wrote

                              Thanks Todd B. ESP for the reply. Here is the Eclipse Standard Series MIJ that I used to own from 2011. I miss this guitar in every way. The ebony fretboard, the playability, the "ball-like" fret edge treatment. These Japanese luthiers are very talented. Any chance the lefties will get a left handed version of this E-II full thickness one? I would buy one without a doubt.

                               

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                                Todd B. ESP
                                Todd B. ESP wrote

                                Hi Renato, Thanks for your reply. We can't see the image you posted so please check it again if you are able to post it here. Yes our luthiers in Japan at our factory and custom shop are amazing for sure! It's nice to hear that you recognized that talent and can see it in our products. Although there is not a LH version of this guitar available currently, it is quite possible that either we or one of our dealers will do a small run of Lefties if there is enough demand. Thank you for your suggestion.

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                                  Renato T.
                                  Renato T. wrote

                                  Hi Todd B. ESP, I updated the image. See if you can see it now. This is a very nice guitar. I couldn't believe how comfortable the neck was, the fit and finish was outstanding. I found my love for ebony fretboards when I played this guitar for the first time. 

                                  On the left side edge close to the control knobs, you can see that the edge angle is very sharp, so the lighting reflects in a concave way. This reflection also happens on the forearm contour, so the geometry is uncomfortable to play. I think you mean the new Eclipses have a smoother forearm contour? (like, convex instead of concave)

                                  Let me know, I would really love to have another Eclipse from Japan

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                                    Todd B. ESP
                                    Todd B. ESP wrote

                                    Hi Renato, thanks for posting the photo. Wow, that's a beautiful guitar! I would say that the corner round at the binding corner is slightly softer or less sharp , but we still have the concave shape (the Arch top shape extends down below the height of the binding and then back up to meet the binding). Not sure if that helps but hope so.

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                                      Renato T.
                                      Renato T. wrote

                                      Hi Todd B. ESP just stopping by to say hi! I would really love to get that black burst full thickness E-II in lefty - or any major color for that matter. Cash in hand and ready to order! It's a dream of a guitar hoping we can make it happen. 

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                                        Carl N.
                                        Carl N. wrote

                                        Hey Renato, unfortunately this particular E-II is not currently produced in left handed.   I would recommend contacting one of these two dealers below, they specialize in left handed instruments and have a history of offering models in left handed orientation exclusive to their stores. 

                                        https://www.espguitars.com/locations/1963864-adirondack-guitar

                                        https://www.espguitars.com/locations/1964144-xtreme-lefty-guitars

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