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Its the same :hat

same sounding sure ,but the 5150 looks cooler

buy the 5150II or 6505+. I think it's $100 more or something. Well worth it though. The crunch channel is footswitchable making it a 3 channel amp. A lot of 5150 users run the crunch as there main gain with either the lead as a lead boost (5150II anyway) or the lead as clean (5150 users). The crunch has a "fuller" gain and sounds great if you run a TS9 or boss SD1 with the gain at 0 and level at 10 (on pedal of course) just to push the pre-amp harder. I use the lead channel as my gain with a maximizer in the effects loop. HEAVEN!!! Plus, the 6505+ has a "clearer" gain. You can crank it higher without getting gritty because of the extra gain stage. Sorry, TMI. I'm a gear geek.

dude buy the plus, it s dual equalizer and ull never hafta spend a dime on an amp again

exactly. The only other amp I'm thinking about buying is an Engl Powerball. I just dont have a good enough reason though. My tone to me, is perfect. 5150II-G major-maximizer (knobs at 6 so not to over kill). It's all in the pre-amp and power tubes with those amps.

I agree...buy my 6505+ in the spam section. :p

ok, extra pre-amp tube......sorry, my bad. Didnt think he would really care about that much detail. You can put a higher gain tube in the pre-amp position (V1) for the crunch channel to get clearer gain outta the Lead. Kinda like an extra gain stage, but technically not.

really? I really like the V2 but havent played a T2. The V2 deffinately didnt sound like any other amp I've played. I'm just waiting a bit to hear about any reliablity issues with the V2 or T2. They're still pretty new and I'm waiting to hear if they have any major issues. The VMax was horrible. The Hughes and Kettner Switchblade was a cool idea and sounds good, they just all break so that was a big negative. Plus, they dont sound anywhere near as good as the V2 did. I almost bought the V2 the other day but like I said previously, I dont really need another amp.

The V2 does sound good, but I've not heard good reviews as to the reliability of this amp.

My 6505+ has been rock solid...And, my XXX seems like it will be, too.

cool. Glad I didnt buy one. Probably wont now. Still sound sweet, too bad. My 5150II was one of the last shipped before they changed to 6505+, thanks to the guys on peavey's forum for tracking the serial #. Havent had any problems at all. I had a 5150 (EVH block letter) before. That had some issues I could never get fixed. But I bought it used off Ebay and who knows what that went through. They usually are REALLY reliable amps. Most of the guys I know that use Mesa have their old 5150's as back up. I really like Engl though. The Blackmore and the Powerball. Splawn are sweet too. The 5150's clean isnt bad with a sonic maximizer in the loop and the right combo of pickups and EQ. Mine's clean enough.

LordCliffton, you the same dude from the peavey forum? If so, believe what this dude says. He knows his shit. My clean is actually pretty clean too. I really want to try putting an EQ in the effects loop again. The last one I tried was good but could've been better. I found that the Sonic stomp with the knobs either at 5 or 6 (12 o'clock or 1 o'clock) really brightens up the amp without really screwing with the amps eq too much. Too many people over use a maximizer, and end up just getting a "scooped" tone.

^hahah i used to do that, i stopped doing it once i tried recording and heard how awful it really was.

So it looks like everyone recommends the 6505 plus/5150 II. I wonder why Peavey still makes the regular 6505, when there's not much of a difference between them?

I've owned both and thought my 5150II had "better" gain in my opinion. But I also had issues with my 5150 EVH the whole time I owned it. Bought it off Ebay. I'd still say the mk2 is more usfull simply for the crunch factor. My volume doesnt jump when I kick in the crunch.

I just figured a "noob" (sorry I hate that term) wouldnt really get it. I mean the guy originally made the post. Bad wording on my part. All I've owned for tube amps (kinda sad but not really) is the 5150 series. First a 5150 EVH then a 5150II. I 've had many chances to play other amps and see how I like em. Engl still takes the cake with Splawn in close second. Been talkin with the Peavey guys on their forum for about 10 years now so I've picked up a bit of info on theses amps too. The best thing for theses amps is good pre amp and power tubes. Most of the complaints about theses amps can be resolved by trying different pre amp tube combinations. For power tubes I still havent found anything better than sovtek WXT+'s. Havent gotten the chance to hear one modded for EL34's though. Sorry, I'm new to posting here but have been "lurking" for a while now. just a simple introduction of myself. I'm glad there are others here who know their shit too. I'm always trying to learn more.