I'm about to buy a used ESP Horizon hrf nt. In the catauloge it says the guitar has Gotoh locking tuners but this one doesn't. The tuners are gotoh but no locking tuners, is it a fake or are som released without lokking tuners?
I know this is a problem and I've never bought a fake esp/ltd. What I think its funny is that esp started out copying gibson stuff haha. But whatever I think esp's guitars and basses are better than gibson's guitars and basses. Sucks that people are ruining great instruments with fake ones and selling them cheap.
Shut down rareelectricguitar.com. They try to do all of the copies. They are even doing copies of the old ESP explorers (MX-220 and the MX-250) that ESP got sued for in the first place. I heard they are junk anyway.
Maybe. Just look for things like how well it stays in tune, or if just feels like crap, and stuff like that. Even though it is a bottom end range LTD, it sould play pretty good if it is real. The serial number thing is kind of suspicious though...look into it. Good luck man
Even their authorized dealers sell counterfeit ESP's from time to time (possibly not knowlingly). I know because I ended up with 2 fake ESP's from GuitarCenter, they did take them back and gave me a full refund, when I provided proof that they were fraudulent. However they relisted them shortly after, just as they had when I bought them.
The only way to know for sure if yours is the "real deal" is to take it to an ESP collector (like myself), or a dealer that truly specializes in ESP guitars.
"Even their authorized dealers sell counterfeit ESP's from time to time (possibly not knowlingly)"
How is that possible? How can an authorized ESP dealer uknowingly get a fake ESP? If they're authorized dealers, they get their ESPs straight from ESP. The only way to get fake ESPs would be getting them from someone else, and why would they do that if they are already getting them straight from ESP?
This post is great and all, but I dare you to email ESP your SN to see if they will help you verify if you have a fake or not. They will not even tell me where I can get obscure replacement parts that they manufacture for mine. I mean, I can understand the hundreds or thousands of inquiries, ESP must get regarding whether or not a guitar is real or fake and could not possibly hand answer them all, but at least make a resource available for customers to do their own research. An online database of serial numbers or something. It's 2014 not 1991, surely this is possible with little effort. We pay a premium for the instruments you sell, you could at least acknowledge that we respect and are interested in the brand.
I recently saved an ESP 901 from a rececycling centre, exactly the same as the one in the link, description is very accurate except mine has been well played and it's purple, play's great, sounds awesome thru my Blackstar ID:260 TVP but no serial number any where to be found just a sticker " MADE IN JAPAN " on the headstock, does this mean it's a fake or do I have something a bit rare
I checked that electricguitardiscount DOT com site. They have copied most of GC's logo as their own.
On another note, I recently purchased a Ltd B-4Z NS bass and it has tuners and pickups marked ESP. Also, the neck simply has ESP printed on the back. Both of my other Ltd basses have "ESP designed" on the pickups/neck and the tuners are marked Ltd. Is this a counterfeit?
I have an LTD F105 bass and an LTD EX401FM and both has the printed ESP logo. On the bass pickups i have only ESP logo too. I saw LTD guitars with it in shops, so i don't think your bass is a counterfeit.
Hi I love ESP guitars also thats why I carry them at The Music Station, I agree with William A. that its a good idea to go into your locals Authorised ESP dealership however if you must buy online MAKE SURE and i emphasize MAKE SURE they are an Authorized Dealer. You can easily do this buy looking up thier name on this site.
Also any dealer who sells ESP legitametely would love to hear from you either by phone or email so lets get some dialog going buy with confidence. I know i sell with confidence ESP/LTD guitars and Basses are one of the best made guitars on Earth.