The Fake ESP Thread
The Fake ESP Thread
Pushead and I are here to help verify ESP and LTD guitars. If you have, or are looking to buy a guitar that you're unsure of, post pictures and questions in this thread. Please post clear pictures of the front and back of the headstock, the fretboard, and the front and back of the body. Preferably before you buy anything.
Anyone else is free to offer suggestions on authenticity. If you answer a post, please tell us why you think it's real or fake.
Hey Raf,
Here's where I see issues with the black MX:
1) The serial number format shows it would be from before 2003, but a guitar from that era wouldn't have the Nashville style bridge (large screw head.) From that era, it would have an ABR-1 style bridge.
2) The serial number font and printing is wrong for that era.
3) The bridge and stop bar both look low quality. The screws for the saddles remind me of hardware from Epiphone guitars. The same with the stop bar. The large section behind the screws makes it feel like it doesn't fit well together.
4) The switch. Again, it just looks low quality. I can't remember if the switch on mine was all black when I bought it, or if I replaced it.
5) The nut shouldn't have the groves filed so deep into the nut. Or rather, the nut should be filed down so the string grooves don't fit so far down.
6) The logo feels wrong. Perhaps it's just a combination of being slightly more toward the tip that I'm used to and the poor image quality. I'm used to seeing the separation between segments of the speaker in the logo. It also makes me feel like the headstock shape is slightly off, too.
Now, I could be wrong. The hardware and the nut could have all been swapped over the years. The body shape seems pretty good. The photo quality and angles might be throwing me off. The photo next to a legit Iron Cross does a lot to give credibility to someone who would have the resources to have a real one. But, based on what I see here, I'm leaning more toward it being a refinished Edwards guitar or a straight up copy.
Hey Raf,
As I said in the PM, there are a lot of things that seem right about this guitar; the body shape, the fingerboard material, and the frets. But then there are things that make me question it. I'm going to share these pics with a few friends of mine who have more experience with the guitars from this era (especially the MX guitars) to see if they have a different opinion.
Ok, so I talked with some of my friends who have legitimate experience with 90s era MX guitars. They all pegged the same things as I did, including the truss rod access and the routing in the pickup cavities. 3 out of 3 all came back with it being a fake.
I'm sorry man, I hate that you were taken for the price of a legit MX.
Here’s an eclipse I found at guitar center yesterday. I have little to no doubt about it’s authenticity, I’m more interested in possibly finding out what you think it’s worth, given the obvious damage to the body. Also, there are a few spots on the back that look suspect. Very uniform looking ‘holes’? They’re asking $275 & I’m fully prepared to pay that, provided y’all think it’s worth it. As far as the hideous attempt that someone made to fix the front, I can easily have it professionally done, for little to nothing. I look forward to hearing from you. Thanks in advance.
I have had a few ESP / LTD guitars, but never had a bass, recently came across this below, just wonder where and when it was made and what value it may have?