Eclipse II swapping Gotoh Magnums for Schaller Locking

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    I been a little frustrated with my Gotoh Magnums. Not only did it take me a few hours to just learn how to use them, I find they dont hold tune after any bending on the higher strings.... Has anyone had any success swapping these out for Schallers, and if so was any drilling required? Another possibility is that I missing some trick to help keep these things in tune. any suggestion are welcome!
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    WildeStarr
    WildeStarr wrote

    I always hated locking tuners. They are the answer to the question nobody asked.

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      xchumfiestax
      xchumfiestax wrote

      I always hated locking tuners. They are the answer to the question nobody asked.

      I could have sworn the question was...

      How do you make string changes faster and easier?

      some like em, some don't

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        Guitarslingerans
        Guitarslingerans wrote

        ...kinda like typing every response in bold.

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          BroKV
          BroKV wrote

          Bold

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            Newfs
            Newfs wrote

            Wow, 6 replies and not one remotely close in subject to the question....Thanks

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              xchumfiestax
              xchumfiestax wrote

              Wow, 6 replies and not one remotely close in subject to the question....Thanks

              welcome to the ESP board :lol

              I haven't had to deal with string changes on my magnum locks yet, but If I were to swap them for anything, it would be for Sperzels

              I think Schallers would be drop in replacements but I know Sperzels normally require a little bit of work. Some have gotten around that though

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                Newfs
                Newfs wrote

                When restringing I held the string up with the tuner hole pointing down towards bridge, I've read that you should hold string away from guitar and with hole 90 degrees.

                Does anyone know if this makes a difference?

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                  creativename11
                  creativename11 wrote

                  get sperzels never had a problem take 5-10 min to change all 6 strings and they stay in tune great thats my input :\

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                    Diurno
                    Diurno wrote

                    I been a little frustrated with my Gotoh Magnums. Not only did it take me a few hours to just learn how to use them, I find they dont hold tune after any bending on the higher strings....

                    Has anyone had any success swapping these out for Schallers, and if so was any drilling required?

                    Another possibility is that I missing some trick to help keep these things in tune. any suggestion are welcome!

                    Well, i've got some problems in the first time i've changed strings....then, once having learned the way, no more troubles. I change strings very quickly and i don't have any problems in tuning stability after bendings!

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                      Desnar
                      Desnar wrote

                      I have problems with Gotoh Magnums. I suspect it may not be faulty hardware or design but me not using them right. They aren't easy like other tuners with the twist nut thingy on the bottom.

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                        Newfs
                        Newfs wrote

                        I'll be chaning strings soon and try them again - pulling the string on more of a 90 before starting to turn the tuner head.

                        And for the record, it didnt take me hours... I was just exageratting and completely frustrated with them. After figuring them out, I find they are not so bad as long as they could hold tunning

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                          WildeStarr
                          WildeStarr wrote

                          After figuring them out, I find they are not so bad as long as they could hold tunning

                          Well.. do they?

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                            OutlawTorn
                            OutlawTorn wrote

                            mine do on my horizon

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                              fireblade
                              fireblade wrote

                              i have both types of tuner on ec-1kSperzel) and esp eclipse (gotoh).
                              the sperzels are very easy to use. the gotohs just need a little work getting used to em.
                              i think they hold tune better than sperzel but maybe not everyone.
                              on gotohs, if you pull string thru and tension it, keep it held tight and turn the head. once the lock nut is tight enough, the entire head starts to turn and string tightens
                              no need to go drillin shit ffs

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