• Jeff K.
      exhibit-sbt wrote:

      Having the OP comment show up at the top is confusing at fuck.  I clicked page 3, the OP pops up, there's nothing to differentiate between it and stuff you post after it.

      Yeah, I'm not a fan either.

    • donting
      Jeff K. wrote:

      I'll stick to Suhr and James Tyler for my new customshop quality guitars going forwards, which are far superior to anything ESP could possibly put out, and I have 5 ESPs. 2 will go on sale shortly and I will never seek to buy another one again.

      How are the Suhr and Tyler forums?

      They are not condicending to their customers 

    • Gfunk
      donting wrote:

      I'll stick to Suhr and James Tyler for my new customshop quality guitars going forwards, which are far superior to anything ESP could possibly put out, and I have 5 ESPs. 2 will go on sale shortly and I will never seek to buy another one again.

      How are the Suhr and Tyler forums?

      They are not condicending to their customers 

       

       

       

       

       

      • jt76

        disclaimer - random introspective after a few to many beers

        first let me say I can't speak for Tyler, but the Suhr forum is quite enjoyable.  Much more akin to how things used to be here.  as for quality, Suhr is an outstanding insturment,  I own one.   I on the other hand own more than 30 esp products.  while I believe the standard series has fallen in quality as of late, they are still formidable and resonably priced instruments.   A workhorse for the giging musician with a decent budget.  Do I want to drop 4,000 for a mid quality shur and gig with it, no!  My suhr while quite enjoyable is reserved for home use as would be an esp original ( I assume the quality is there based only on price and experience with your products since I have yet to lay my hands on one because my local shops have limited selections).  The standard series is expensive, but pro quality,  and not such an investment that I gard it with my life.  My custom shop ESP however smokes my Suhr.   I would be highly reluctant to gig with that either.  I am certain John could custom build something that would impress, and possibly outshine my ESP custom, but at a price I am not willing to pay.  All that said I would sell off my collection including my suhr and my cutom shop and keep my 2 horizon classics if money ever got tight.  For that matter I have a an LTD MII deluxe from the mid 90's that could out last everything in my colletion if things ever really went down the toilet.

        On the other hand I think this forum has gone to crap, seems as if quotes were implemented at cost of deletion of omess,  sorry, he was an ass, but equally part of what made this feel like home.   The LTD and Equipment and technical sections are alive and well, with mostly endless silly noob questions and persons who reply to posts from 5 years ago, but the heart and soul of this place is gone from lack of interest or banned members.   There is no heart beat. I feel as if we are a terminal paitent only surviving by mechanical assitance.  Thanks for the quote feature, its a good place to start, but something is seriously wrong here.  There is just something missing.  I was a daily visitor, now I just check in once in a while.   You have created a haven for noobs, and lost all respect for those who built this place.  Tolerance for nonsense and fun and abstract bs should be qually valued as much as tolerance for those whom are just joining.   I joined a much different forum,  paid my dues, got harrased, and made it through.  I felt like I was part of it, now I am lost here.  Kramer lost itsself by becoming  known for cheap instruments, instead of the american series and focus series that were mostly made by you, because they realize that selling thousands of cheap crappy guitars was more profitable.  Look how that turned out.  Kamen music likewise destroyed the reputation of many fantastic brands using the same buisness model.  Dean and BC rich and even Ibanez have also become better known for their lower end models.   Happy to see that you have revitalized the high end product lines,  please don't discard the customers that are likely to buy them in favor of those who would buya chinese LTD or that may quickly become what you are best known for.  

        I will now pour my beer on the ground ( Im going outside first, not doing it on the floor by my PC) in tribute of those old schoolers whom we have lost .  

        edit-- somehow this ended up as a reply to gfunk instead of it own separate entity.  no gonna bother to move it now.  I must of clicked the wrong place.....why is this forum so hard to use.     

         

         

         

         

         

      • Jeff K.
        jt76 wrote:

        disclaimer - random introspective after a few to many beers

         

        That was actually all good stuff, and thank you, JT.

    • Powerslave
      Jeff K. wrote:

      Thanks for the input RK! I will say that we're looking forward and not backward. We won't "ditch approved members", but we still can make tweaks to how the forum performs. We might consult with you and a few other folks here who seem to have good ideas on ways to make the forums improve. Are more smilies super important to the experience of using the forum?

       

    • Ozzfun

      Does everyone elese see quotes for the past two posts but no responses underneath? 

    • Powerslave

      Weird. My response was "no, reasons to actually smile are important to the experience of using the forum."


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