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Baritones are tighter, and mean you dont have a sound that sounds like mush.

But dont be fooled by baritones, you can have a good tight sound in standard scale lengths.

Id say try baritone scales first. I have a Baritone fro Drop A just so things sound tighter.

Okay thanks ^^.

I hate loose strings. But I'm not a fan of huge strings either. For Drop C, is it about the same as for B ? I'll develop a bit : I play most stuff in D, some in E, and for rhythm riffing, easy playing and recording I'd like a Drop C guitar. For many other stuff I like, I need to play in B. So question is, do I get a Baritone for both Drop C and B or is it better if I switch tunings on my normal scaled axes ?

LOL Gfunk, let me guess... is your baritone a neck-thru ?

What guitar is it ?

Well, I'm wondering why you ever bought this (or custom ordered ?). I didn't even know they make baritone horizons, not seen one on the website. I'd be interested cause even if it's not your cup of tea, it sounds quite like mine ^^

LOL

It's true I'm very floydish but I can do without as well (one uf my ultimate GASes is a Les Paul Custom, to give just one example)

Gfunky's is kelly hayes' old one from cold

could we see some pics ?

sounds like a awesome axe

this is sillie.

anyhoo, imo main reason for longer scale neck is to improve intonation issues.

i find gibson scale 24.75" horribibble for any tuning beyond D-standard (not dropD ), which is 2 semitones down from standard E-standard.

typical "baritone" scale is B-standard and that is 5 semitones down, so is quite a lot.

fender scale 25.5" works for me down to about C-standard i guess, but that's still up 1 semitone from usual baritone.

A lot of bands/songs i like though are in Drop-C, which is D-standard PLUS drop the lowest string to C, so effectively isn't really much different than D-standard in terms of intonation issues for me, only 1 string going very low. i wouldn't do drop-C on a gibson scale but i'll do it on a fender scale.

but afer Korn and Staind came out a lot of bands now are going below standard baritone of B down to A, so just imagine a standard-scale guitar and trying to tune it down to A, that's 7 semitones below what it was designed for. the result blows imo.

string gauges resolve the tightness/looseness issues for playability,
but they don't resolve intonation problems;
you've got the bridge too close and virtually all your frets (and your nut) jammed too close together, to get good intonation.

imo - use the proper tool. if i'm only tuning down to C and own a 25.5 that's fine; if i'm only going to drop-C (which is D) then that's definitely fine. If i'm going to B and below, i want more than 25.5".

jmo.

That's a very argumentative opinion ^^. Thanks a lot !

With a 26,5 scale, the string tension would be a bit higher than with 27, am I right ?

I kicked around buying a baritone, ended up getting a 7.

I have already tried 7-strings, not my thing. The music shop here has had a Stephen Carpenter LTD for months and I played it several times, I just can't hold 7-string necks, they are too wide for me. I have small hands, but with longer scales I have no problems strangely. I can't play on 35" basses, but 27" baritones I can (strangely, I suck on Les Paul scales, wtf ? I'm wicked ^^). And also, 7 string configuration being simply a six-string with some lower horror is just unnatural for me, I'm much more at ease with strongly detuned 6-strings.

i like 7s too but i found i'm never using the highest string - i dont' do Steve Vai histrionics, and no longer doing any Korn covers (used to ), so i just had extra stuff in the way i wasn't using; baritones make more sense to me for downtuned songs, and a 7 makes more sense to me for playing an extended range - which i personally don't end up doing. again "right tool for the job" applies here for me. JME!

Well I doubt I would use all seven strings anyway, cause if I take a 7 it's for the lower stuff, and playing very high leads over very low rhythm sounds very odd IMO, so I wouldn't use the extended range given, just as gaijin said.