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EC neck not tall enough? meaning....not wide enough?

So I think what you are saying is you want a thin-u neck profile, with a wider nut and longer scale. The MH series necks are super thin, 25.5", but the nut is skinny (42mm). The Viper has a wider feeling neck profile, I think the same 42mm width nut (but I think the fretboard is a little wider feeling), but its only 24.75 scale. M series LTD's have a 43mm nut, 25.5" scale... same as the KH-602's. If you want a super wide nut, check out the George Lynch models. I'm not sure if you'll get any for a grand, but some of his necks go to 45mm... I think those are all $$$ ESP models tho. For the record I have huge hands and sometimes wish they made a 25.5" Viper... the scale really makes a difference past like the 15th fret. Its not all better with the 25.5"...I can pull off some sick stretches on a shorter scale neck!

So I think what you are saying is you want a thin-u neck profile, with a wider nut and longer scale. -sirsloopYes that would be putting it the best way. Thanks..... Not so worried about the scale as I am the width at the top by the nut. With my hands being large I constantly find myself muting stings in chords because of lack of space. I am also sure that my lack of experience (1.5 yrs) do not help. So for example if I am trying to play this

1st:-------12----------12----------12----------12-----|
2nd:----13----13----13----13----12----12----12---12-|
3rd:-14----------14----------12----------12-----------|
4th:---------------------------------------------------|
5th:---------------------------------------------------|
6th:---------------------------------------------------|

1st:-------14----------14----------12----------12------|
2nd:----15----15----15----15----13----13----13----13-|
3rd:-12----------12----------14----------14------------|
4th:----------------------------------------------------|
5th:----------------------------------------------------|
6th:----------------------------------------------------|

Going from through the transitions I always end up muting say the 14th fret with the 15th finger. Trust me I have practiced, practiced, practiced...

thanks for the help...I think that I am going to look into the KH-602

theDogger

(To give you an idea of my hand size measuring from the base of my palm to the tip of my middle finger is 8 3/4")

I feel like such a fanboy for knowing what that song was right off the bat :lol

I too dislike how many ESPs have the narrower 42mm nut. I advise you to try out the Willie Adler signature. I believe it has a 45mm nut. The George Lynch ESP Strats (not the LTDs) like the Kami, Tiger, and Skulls also have a wide 45mm nut if you're looking for a Strat shape.

little kirk action eh? or does the jamez play that part?

btw, the problem with that part isn't really the width of the neck.. you gotta bend those fingers over and fret on the ends of your fingers.

try this little kse lick out too... it'll really help with your pick control while back stroking over the thinner strings. Clean channel and drag the pick over the strings almost like a slow sweep/arpeggio... 3, 3, 0...3,3,0... etc...

1st:--3--------3---------5---------3-----------3--------|
2nd:----3--------3---------3----------3-----------3-----|
3rd:-------0---------0---------0----------0-----------0~|
4th:-----------------------------------------------------|
5th:-----------------------------------------------------|
6th:-----------------------------------------------------|

1st:--3--------3---------7---------5-----------3--------|
2nd:----3--------3---------3----------3-----------3-----|
3rd:-------0---------0---------0----------0-----------0~|
4th:-----------------------------------------------------|
5th:-----------------------------------------------------|
6th:-----------------------------------------------------|

1st:--3--------3---------7---------5-----------7---5---3|
2nd:----3--------3---------3----------3-----------------|
3rd:-------0---------0---------0----------0-------------|
4th:-----------------------------------------------------|
5th:-----------------------------------------------------|
6th:-----------------------------------------------------|

1st:--2----2-2--3~----3---------------------------------|
2nd:------------------3--------------------------------|
3rd:------------------2---------------------------------|
4th:-----------------------------------------------------|
5th:-----------------------------------------------------|
6th:-----------------------------------------------------|

there used to be this table around here on the boards of neck dimensions, nut widths and so on. does anyone still have that and could post it? i'd be interested too

Are you sure your technique is ok? I also have preety big hands and fingers and i can play really well on 43mm wide necks. However i can't play on other guitars and often mute strings too, so i know how it feels ;)

yeh... i can play it fine too on my TINY MH-250NT neck... its gotta be how you are fretting. You can't fret with the pads of your fingers there. Its gotta be on the tips.

if you put a wide nut on a thin neck, your strings may have a tendency to slip off the side of the fretboard.

45mm nut is all you need.