• Jared M.

    Eclipse Standard will not stay in tune

    I picked up a second hand Eclipse II (2012) from my work about 2 weeks ago, and even after a pro set up it will not stay in tune. 

    It just seems like these gotoh's aren't holding the tuning at all. I'm using 54-11 for CGCFAD. 

    Any ideas? If I can't fix this soon I'll have to return and then I'll most liekly not pick up a SCT607B, I'll just be looking for othe avenues. Its a shame cause I love this guitar, but I cant have this issue, even more so the thuning is drastically going out. 


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    • jt76

      I am assuming that you have standard non locking tuners

       

      54 - 11's should not be giving this guitar any problems

       

      possible issues 

      - your tech sucks

      - not enough string wrapped around the tuners - replace the strings

      -  tuners are loose, tighten the screws on the tuning keys,

      - bad strings - old strings won't stay in tune,  occasionally I get new strings that just don't play nice either.  another set of strings doesn't cost that much.

      - bad intonation - did the pro set up included checking the intonation,  bad intonation can make it impossible tune the guitar.

      - strings catching at nut or bridge - after you get in tune pull your strings away from the guitar anywhere between the nut and the bridge - then retune, then repeat until pulling on them no longer makes the guitar go out of tune.  Should only take about 2- 4 times to get it right,  if it keeps going out of tune when pulling on the strings there is something else wrong.

      - bad tuners - it's unlikely but previous owner could have stripped the gears in the tuners if you like the guitar that much a new set of tuners dosent cost that much compared to an eclipse ii 

       

      also check your frets, it unlikely on a guitar of that age, fret wear can cause tuning issuse also,  this would be a fairly costly repair. flat spots or groves under the strings are signs of wear.

      good luck, hope thats helpful

       

       

       

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      • Jared M.

        It has Gotoh Magnum locking. New strings. Maybe the strings are catching, he did a full set up and he works for some pretty big bands as a tech so i doubt its the set up, but everyine has off days. I was thinking it was the tuners cause the just seem like they arent holding the string...

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        • Garnoch

          If it's catching at the nut, you could lube it.  I use Dr. Ducks Ax Wax for many things including that, but many people use graphite on the nut.  Good luck.

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        • jt76

          You could restring the guitar and wrap the strings as if the tuners were standard tuners,  if this works and the guitar stays in tune then I would say its locking mechanics on the tuners are bad.

          overtightening the locking on tuners can ruin the mechanics that lock the strings,   I don't belive this can be fixed, but a new set of gotoh magnum locking tuners would be around $70. 

          I would make shure its not catching at the nut first. 

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