Advice for changing strings - Gotoh tuners
Advice for changing strings - Gotoh tuners
I always switched to Sperzels, but I finally just bought an M-I(!) and I can't believe how horrible the Gotoh tuners are. I had a set of Grover locking tuners before which are a really similar style and these are actually worse.
What is ESP thinking? I can't imagine that they're saving that much money by not using Sperzels on the standard line. I think skipping the locking bridge is weak, but I get that it costs a lot more money.
I'm ditching these as soon as I get enough to order more Sperzels.
No, no, no, no......... not Sperzels!!!!
The magnum gotohs are excellent,they are one of the best features on the ESP range.
I agree with ChrisTM, use them before making comment!!!
Ok, I agree, you have to get your head round how they work, but its not rocket science....jeez!!!
Once you have got the hang of them, (which takes about a minute) the Gotohs are the dogs nuts.
I love 'em .....you can probably tell.
Our other guitarist has got a LTD with Sperzels and they are ok (ish) but no where near as good as the magnums
nuff said
Sorry Gfunk, my post was useless as it was a rant to say how good the Magnums are but actually offered no advice.
This is what i do.
1. loosen the string with the tuning key as per normal
2. Cut string
3. The string will still be locked in the tuning key by the collet. Use screwdrive/penny to un-lock collet.
4. Loosen collet by hand and remove string
5. Thread through new string
My Tip!! - spin collet so the the hole is just big enough to let the string through. Dont allow the hole to be too big.
6. Pull string as tight as you can
7. Turn tuning key as normal
8. After a few turns the collet will "bite" and the string will tighten.
9. The string should be "tune" tight in about 3/4's of a turn (ish)
Note: If you have got an Eclipse or Viper with 3 tuners on the top and 3 on the bottom, you will see that the collet is loosened by turning it clockwise, not anticlockwise like normal.
The time to change a string and get it up to tune is remarkably quick
Hope this helps
Exactly, once I found out how these tuners on my Horizon NT-II worked it was pretty easy. The one on my low E-string is always a pain in the ass though. I don't know why but even though I can change the other 5 strings in no time, the low E takes ages to lock itself... I keep turning and I just have to be patient and be lucky, until it 'bites'. I'd say string is too big, but it's only a 0.046!
I guess that was my biggest problem with the tuners, the 6th string not locking. I tune to B standard with 13's. The 6th, and even 5th string did not want to "catch". I pulled them off, replaced them with a set of non-locking Gotoh. The mounting screw holes do not match, so I had to fill in the old holes, but other than that they are a great fit.
I also wanted black hardware, instead of the "Ibanez like" black chrome. That stuff looks ok on an Ibanez, but for some reason just doesn't look right on an ESP.
I hate these tuners. I am changing them out on my M1.
I would give you advice, but I haven't really worked it out myself.
From what I have been told, if you leave just enough room in the peg for the strings, then put the strings through, then hold the peg with a screwdriver while you tighten them, they will lock. I have yet to get that to work for me.
Also you don't want any winding on the peg, which is the problem I currently have, I can't seem to get the strings tight enough before winding to not have any winding on the peg.
Good luck!